Thumbnail system v4 · results page · built 2026-11-05

Thumbnail generation methods: what we tested and what won

Main test Nov 4 on your 12 latest videos: 619 renders, 19 recipes, every render scored blind by two AI judges plus code checks (face match, brightness, stray text). Later tests at the bottom.

The short answer

Read this with one caveat

AI judges did the scoring. They agreed with your past picks about 65% of the time, and on the 123 finals you reviewed afterwards their score predicted your keep or drop no better than a coin flip. So "won" here means "the judges liked it more". The big gaps (model, layout aids) are large enough to trust; the small ones are not. Your own blind picks (Later tests) are the stronger evidence where they exist.

Every method, on the same 4 ideas

Each method changes one thing from the round-5 recipe, on up to 24 ideas (Seedream 12, AI clay plan 19, Blender 3D plan 9; "Everything" changes several things at once). The number is the change in the judges' score versus round 5, in judge points out of 10, with the 90% range in brackets; one render per idea, so anything under about 0.2 points is noise. Face match = share of renders that pass the 0.72 likeness floor.

revolver rising from smoke
I Tested Every Satisfying 3D Print
$100 bills on fire
Experiments That Look FAKE But Are Actually REAL!
axe splitting the Oreo box
I Bought the World's Biggest Snacks!
$11 gold blaster firing
Level 1 to 100 3D Prints
Starting point

BaselineRound-5 recipe (the one you called best so far)

Face match 73% · GPT Image 2.5, 1 face photo + object photos + body panel, the long prompt.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.9/10 · face 0.80
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.6/10 · face 0.81
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.5/10 · face 0.74
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.6/10 · face 0.80
Model

WorseNano Banana 2.1 instead of GPT

-1.2 points (-1.3 to -1.0) · face match 4% · Lost your face on almost every render.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 4.2/10 · face 0.62 · a judge rejected it
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.1/10 · face 0.64
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 4.8/10 · face 0.66 · a judge rejected it
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 5.9/10 · face 0.62

WorseNano Banana Pro instead of GPT

-1.3 points (-1.4 to -1.1) · face match 4%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 4.9/10 · face 0.68
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.0/10 · face 0.70
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 4.0/10 · face 0.60 · a judge rejected it
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 4.8/10 · face 0.61

WorseSeedream 5.0 Pro instead of GPT

-1.4 points (-1.7 to -1.1) · face match 33% · Got the GPT-tuned prompt, nothing written for it.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.5/10 · face 0.70
$100 bills on fire
judges 3.6/10 · face 0.77 · a judge rejected it
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 4.9/10 · face 0.71 · a judge rejected it
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 4.6/10 · face 0.64 · a judge rejected it
Layout aid

WorseAn outlier thumbnail as the base image, edited (Marcus style)

-0.4 points (-0.7 to -0.2) · face match 64%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.76
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.81
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 7.5/10 · face 0.73
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.0/10 · face 0.77

WorseAI gray clay plan first, then render from it

-0.8 points (-1.0 to -0.6) · face match 53%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 5.2/10 · face 0.71
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.0/10 · face 0.82
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 4.4/10 · face 0.68
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 5.5/10 · face 0.76

WorseBlender 3D gray plan first (old body model)

-0.5 points (-0.7 to -0.2) · face match 78% · Only 9 ideas. The newer 3D plan was re-tested later (see Later tests).

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.1/10 · face 0.77
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.1/10 · face 0.82
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.70
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.2/10 · face 0.79
Prompt

WorseShort prompt (70 words)

-0.4 points (-0.6 to -0.1) · face match 77%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.0/10 · face 0.78
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.9/10 · face 0.84
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.5/10 · face 0.68
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 5.2/10 · face 0.81

No clear differenceDirector-style prompt (camera, grid, first and second read, avoid list)

+0.1 points (-0.1 to +0.3) · face match 75%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.9/10 · face 0.81
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.82
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.2/10 · face 0.79
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6/10 · face 0.82
References

No clear differenceFace photo only, no object or body pictures

+0.0 points (-0.2 to +0.2) · face match 91%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 7.1/10 · face 0.83
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.85
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 5.8/10 · face 0.75
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.79

No clear difference3 face photos instead of 1

+0.0 points (-0.1 to +0.2) · face match 91%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 7.0/10 · face 0.80
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.85
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.0/10 · face 0.76
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.76

Small plusCharacter sheet instead of the body panel

+0.2 points (+0.0 to +0.3) · face match 83% · Weak.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 7.1/10 · face 0.82
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.85
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.6/10 · face 0.74
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.2/10 · face 0.82

Did not hold upYour fixed favorite photo instead of an emotion-matched one

+0.3 points (+0.1 to +0.4) · face match 70% · Better at first, fell to about 0 when the same images were judged again in groups of 4.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 7.1/10 · face 0.77
$100 bills on fire
judges 7.2/10 · face 0.79
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.6/10 · face 0.67
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.9/10 · face 0.73

No clear differenceA style reference added (one clean round-5 render)

+0.1 points (-0.1 to +0.3) · face match 87%

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.9/10 · face 0.77
$100 bills on fire
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.79
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.5/10 · face 0.72
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.78

Better (kept)Everything: 3 face photos + character sheet + objects + style reference

+0.3 points (+0.1 to +0.4) · face match 87% · Changes several things at once. Held up when judged again (+0.4 points) and in a follow-up on 85 new ideas (+0.5 points). This became WIN.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.79
$100 bills on fire
judges 7.1/10 · face 0.80
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.71
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 6.8/10 · face 0.78

No clear differenceA hand-picked natural face photo (no stare)

+0.1 points (-0.2 to +0.4) · Judged in groups of 4, not the same scale as the rows above; +0.2 points in the 85-idea follow-up, not proven.

revolver rising from smoke
judges 6.6/10 · face 0.80
$100 bills on fire
judges 7.0/10 · face 0.82
axe splitting the Oreo box
judges 6.4/10 · face 0.76
$11 gold blaster firing
judges 7.1/10 · face 0.82

Later tests

A real outlier thumbnail as an extra reference Your picks: leaning yes, not proven

Your blind picks, 2 rounds on the same 23 ideas, 4 versions each (round 2 is the second set you pasted later; what it was is still to be confirmed with you). WIN plus one library thumbnail with the same layout was your most picked version both times: 18 of 43 picks (42%, where chance is 25%). A strong lean, not proof: both rounds share the ideas and the picker, and across the rounds you picked the same version for the same idea only 6 times in 20, so the versions are close. Using the library thumbnail INSTEAD of the round-5 style reference was picked least (6 of 43), so the round-5 style reference stays. After round 1 you said "just cuz i picked these doesn't mean i like them". Not added to the recipe.

GPT quality setting: low vs medium vs high Your call: always high

On your 5 approved A/B thumbnails: low kept the layout and face on 4 of 5 but lost texture and drifted on hard faces; medium was no clear middle; upscaling a low render did not bring the texture back. You: "i think high is better than low upscaled. let's keep at high". Side-by-side page

The new 3D plan (real pose + your head scan) Your call: not added

One concept, your upside-down drink sketch, 4 renders per version, blind AI judge. WIN + the new 3D plan vs WIN alone: matched your sketch 8 vs 6, natural body 8 vs 7, real-photo look 8 vs 6.5, same thumbnail score (7). The 3D colour plan scored highest (7.5). You: "i honestly don't think it's much better than studio v4", so it stays out. The -0.5 above was the old gray body model.

GTA 6 thumbnails: GPT vs Nano Banana 2 Split picks, GPT kept your face

Oct 30, first GTA round, 9 concepts, judged by my eye only (you did not judge it): GPT won 3, Nano Banana 2 won 3, 2 tied. GPT kept your face in the painted GTA style and added no stray text; Nano Banana 2 turned your face into a generic cartoon and invented text and logos ("CASE CLOSED", an R* logo, a Ferrari badge), though its rougher look read better for fan-made and in-game frames.

Running now: a real-proportions line In progress

Since Nov 5, 15% of renders are experiments (your call). First one: WIN plus an explicit "real body proportions" line, vs WIN. After 21 pairs: head size the same (0.705 vs 0.704), body check fails 7 vs 9, face match 0.758 vs 0.752. Your verdicts on them come with your next review. Queued next: your fixed favorite photo as the face reference, and softer outdoor daylight.

Other things the test found

What changed in the recipe since, from your reviews

What none of this tested

Every render of every idea, per video: hafu-thumb-v4.pages.dev. Full write-up: work/in-development/thumbnail-system/v4/exp/REPORT.md.